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What can men do at the individual level to help? On an individual level? I would say that there are two steps. Some men have already mastered the first one. Step 1: men can learn to appreciate a variety of body types, seeing what is beautiful in each woman. Step 2: see what is beautiful in your lover, and let her know how lovely… beautiful… hot whatever best describes your feeling she is!

Racism and makes people feel bad about themselves. And you would like people to stop behaving in that hurtful way. And I agree. You say many things that promote sexism and that makes most women feel bad about their bodies, besides. And worshiping large breasts leaves most women feeling bad about themselves because without obesity and implants the average breast size is a B cup or an A cup, depending on the culture. Growing up, it was clear how the bigger Breasts you had the more you were liked and highly admired.

Meanwhile, the breast fetish is a social construction. And the big breast fetish is overlaid on top of that. The fixation often harms both men and women. But I am curious as to what difference it makes to you. Why is it important to you to believe that it is biologically-based? However it never occurred to me that the sexualization of breasts could be considered a fetish.

Reading your article, it seemed obvious that it would be considered a fetish. That is what a fetish is, the extreme sexualization of something typically-nonsexual. I can preach about freeing the nipple and all that, but I obviously have internalized feelings in which I view breast in the sexual manner our society perceives them in.

And how do we know this? Today, more voluptuous bodies are accepted and wanted, and so many women have started obsessing with going to the gym and doing squats. Reblogged this on Truth Troubles: Why people hate the truths' of the real world. Like if I want to see nipples I can see it on porn or whatever like most men. Or some pasties are big and cover a big part of the breasts. Men have nipples, not breasts or breasts like women. Yet the body part we do share is what is porn territory and not breasts? So that tiny little material is stopping lil johnny from being highly aroused?

Actually, that tiny little material is exactly what crazy arousal. Like I said with bare ass shown, which is as sexually attractive and arousing as bare breasts, but that fine on some ads or tv. Sex scenes as long as no nipples shown. They might as well show the nipples, because lil johnny already to to the point of high arousal by then.

Not preventing anything. So worried about lil johnny getting a lil more aroused, when he already got there to a great extent already? When that boy is already aroused? I find it so interesting the controversy regarding breasts nowadays. In fact, I have seen men out there with larger and more voluptuous breasts than some women I know. Kimmel is so uncomfortable and gets so flustered over them. This is a grown man who is in show business, where there is a ton of weird things that happen, and he cannot handle seeing pastie-covered boobs.

I also find it so odd that women are shamed for publicly breast-feeding. You see all these social experiments and videos online of women who are shamed by both men and women for breast-feeding in public. What is so wrong about that? Breast-feeding is a normal part of life. Infants need to eat, and they do it often. How is it fair that we ask women to constantly excuse themselves to find a private area to feed their child?

These women are doing what their bodies are biologically created to do. Why should they be shamed for it? We, as society, have hyper-sexualized breasts and feel uncomfortable when we see them exposed in public. This is our fault. We should not project this onto mothers who are doing what is completely natural. Interesting read. I personally think men are naturally turned on by breasts and booty.

I think either one, if not both is their fetish. I also think this could be true due to different trends such as twerking booty dance , porn, and other things surfacing social media, television, etc. Both men and women are drawn into breasts. The rest tend to share the post — and this one has been shared over 19, times. Social constructions often feel natural.

With some things you can only tell that they are social constructions by doing cross-cultural research. Thank you for your exhaustive response. Most men are so insecure I think many of them feel that they have no sexual power and women have all of it. She basically says that men are attracted to breasts because. Since this viewpoint still seems to be extant it is not surprising that men get defensive if someone suggests their attraction to breasts is socialised. Incidentally, as a man I can say it certainly feels completely and utterly hardwired.

My body started reacting to the sight of naked breasts before my brain did. You rown attraction to breasts may have been strong but I doubt it was as all powerful and all-encompassing as it was for most men of a similar age. Some guys think I bring this up to shame them. Which leaves them obsessing over how they look and distracted from sex — which is not so great for men, either.

Meanwhile, evolutionary psychology says that the reason why men are visually cued in is so that men can detect the healthiest women. And it seems to be important info for women, given the number of shares this post has received. And the fact that it is pretty much always in my top 10 most viewed posts even after all these years. Also, social constructions often feel biological. Like this one. Which is why I wrote this in the original post:. Oftentimes, the only way you can tell that something is a social construction is by doing cross-cultural research.

And as it turns out, men are actually less judgmental than women — usually. And whether or not the women give in to the pressure, the couple cannot be happy for long. The book, a billion wicked thoughts has plenty of info on why straight men and gay men are both attracted to the same body parts on their potential mates. They developed a theory called a body map. This is hardware existing in the brain at birth. Men are naturally that way. Evolutionary psychology — the theory the book uses to explain the Internet data that is analyzed — is contradictory too. Evolutionary psychology has two schools that contradict each other.

See this:. With more support and resources, children grew bigger brains and were more likely to survive. If you would like to tell me why you disagree with this post, please read this first and comment over there: The Breast Fetish Is Natural? Here are the ones that come to mind below. Citation, please. At the moment this is conjecture. It could be that the tribal societies who remain uncovered are desexualizing breasts by exposing kids to them from childhood.

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc, a fallacy of causation a correlation. This is completely irrelevant. It means one culture is more knowledgeable than another. These cultures also do other extreme and taboo things with sexual organs. Most men have there penis showing.. Aye, but then your argument will flow to some women becoming aroused from other body parts as well… This is true… But the breast has scientifically been proven to have an abundance of nerve endings to suggest an area of arousal… They are indeed designed to attract the male species.

It is our nature to reproduce and just as a male peacock uses vibrant colors and displays to attract a female so does the breast attract a male… One of many tools a woman can use to pick her perfect mate. The only part that is really itching my mind about this is that it strikes me as possibly being a causal oversimplification. Social context matters. As an example, I spent a number of years as an EMT. Well, as they say in my field, a naked patient is a happy patient, so in the back of my truck, their clothes get cut off obviously only when the circumstances make it appropriate… I mean, trying to cut the shirt off a conscious patient with an ankle injury would make for a very short career.

See what I wrote to the last guy — and what I will probably write you some more guys who wrote in. There is a difference between a fetish and natural attraction. This fetish is a social construction that is not found in every culture. What a ridiculously one-sided blog. Yes, some human beings are visual just like some human beings — apparently you — are not visual. This is science based, not anecdotal and certainly not dependent on gender. Most likely because historically men have been in charge of images, Whether in art, literature or media.

Do Women Objectify Men? Therefore, we are not hard-wired to like fruit. This entire argument fascinates me, not the least because if the thesis of this post is accurate, than I am afflicted and in need of considerable therapeutic intervention. It is a difficult, constant, and I think biologically unnatural, for many—if not all—men to monitor and check our sexual drive, yet it is necessary.

Is it Freudian to believe that the core of most of what we do is determined by the impulse to procreate? An aside: In that regard, maturity was a sweet relief—those years when the male body pretty much operates on the same principle as a compass, albeit driven by a different type of magnetism, but still pointing reliably north, are exhausting.

It is no different with a woman breastfeeding, or, for example, skinny dipping. Because it is polite, and expected. Social constructions pretty much always feel biological. I agree. If people went naked or nearly naked, no one would care anymore. We might get cold though…. Since puberty, I found a specific body type of some males to be hugely erotic to me. I definitely find males half-nude, or nude, to be a turn-on. Well, culture and myself, or yourself, are all different things. At least not very much or very often. As a result, magazines of naked men have never sold well among women.

But different women have different mixes of the three things I noted above, so you do enjoy images of naked men. But culturally speaking, images of naked men your experience is less common. Others argue that breasts does effect gynophillic people a lot, and not strangely because it is a sighn of maturity and thus a sign of fertility. But at the same time because of the sexual mystique that they have in the west that heightens it. Just like a curvy body gets more mystique in cultures were it is shamed to see curves and women dress to avoid showing them.

Big but, big hipps, small waist, also shows signs of fertility and low average androgen exposure. All sexual characteristics primary and secondary exist because of primarly sexual selection and to a lesser extent natural selection. And women are sexually attracted to men even though no part of the male body is fetishized. So there is still excitement and mystery around those parts. We generally see African tribe women having their vagina covered and men have their penises covered. So then the question becomes would it only mean touch or vocal would cause arousal vs visual?

Then to take that farther what if we touched each other all the time and talked dirty to each other all the time, then arousal would be very difficult. What I think this all really means is that these things are still biological, but they can be desensitized. I actually believe that sexual attraction is partly visual for both women and men. Everyone has a sexual orientation leaving them attracted to women or men, and the trigger is largely visual. And yet heterosexual men still want to have sex with women in their communities.

It can heighten the sexual experience. None of the things I talk about in these last 2 posts are necessary or healthy. I think you have it backwards. You seem to suggest that sexual attraction originates in culture, which is impossible because culture would not exist without biology coming first. I believe sexual attraction originates in biology, as a motivation for sexual reproduction. But certain cultures have been able to desensitize their people to it.

Unfortunately, this requires being exposed to the stimulus constantly, which is not convenient in cold climates where people must wear clothing and cover themselves to keep warm. I mentioned in the post that in tribal societies men are sexually attracted to women, despite not experiencing a breast fetish. Humans have some biological needs — sex and food for instance. But how those appetites are fashioned varies from culture to culture. In some cultures men have become desensitized — but you have to learn the fetish first in order to later become desensitized.

And those are the cultures that are the oldest. The female breast is not fetishized in tribal cultures, and yet men have still been sexually interested since prehistoric times. Or else none of us would be here. I found this article very interesting as before I read it I thought that the attraction to breast to be biological. I figured the attraction was due to them being female genitals and for biological reasons reproduction men would be attracted to them. I thought maybe it also had to do with them being a source of food for us as we were young, however it has only to do with what your society has deemed a private part.

It makes sense after I read the article, after all breast have nothing to do with the act of making a baby. The only reason I find a breast sexy is because I have been forbidden from seeing them anytime I look at a women. This then goes on to say that thing like hair and even a glimpse of skin can be deemed sexy just by covering it up. Is it because as a human I want to feel risky or taboo? I wonder if the phycology behind it can be taken further and explain humans thirst for knowledge?

Is the reason human know so much about physics explained by this? It is kind of the same thing. We can see physics working by throwing an apple in the air just like we know women have breast because we can see lumps under their shirts. However we want to know more!

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I dont know maybe it is more about the act of someone exposing themself to you. Maybe it is because you feel special they decided to show you. It makes the act of exposing yourself something intimate, and can take a great deal of trust. Perhaps it is has another reason all together. Three things create a fetish:. And so breasts are fetishized and genitals are not, even though genitals are more directly sexual than breasts are. I think people are mistaking culture with habits here. In some tribal cultures, such as the Zulu, women were traditionally topless, but the breasts were still regarded as sexual features.

The Zulu practiced the Virgin Reed Dance festival Umhlanga , where virgin females of sexually-developed age dance topless for their chief, originally as a way for the king to choose a wife or wives. Today, nowadays, it remains as a means of cultural preservation and heritage display—but still with this cultural duality. Similarly, blossomed females of fertility age in Papua New Guinea were topless, but often decorated their breasts in an inviting, accentuated nature, and traditionally were a very sexual people even controversially, to the point where even young children openly mimicked sexual intercourse, much to social approval, before the days of Christian missionaries.

The Aztec, Polynesians, the ancient Greeks, and ancient Egyptians all saw such duality between social acclimation of open breasts and high sexual regard towards the female breasts. Anyways, people here are also disregarding the bigger picture: For MOST of human culture across most of history, the female human breasts were recognized as sexual features.

Call it an evolutionary feature. Basically, human female breasts are proportionally larger than they need to be to serve the purpose of breastfeeding similar to how the human male penis is proportionally much larger. That is, a natural objectification. A natural form of sexual objectification without social connotations or cultural regard in itself.

Not that women are exclusive to such natural objectification, or men are helpless to such objectifying, but part of being a woman is to be naturally accentuated by nature for men to notice. Just as we have people who are sexually-capable but prefer asexuality, or how we socially confine ourselves to marriage, even though most other primates are polygamous creatures. Though, most human cultures dwelt somewhere in between. There is no evidence that the men you describe are aroused by seeing breasts. Do you really think that men who are constantly surrounded by topless women have a hard on all day long?

And I have had conversations with men from Europe those European cultures in which toplessness is more common , And some European men have written on my blog there are a lot of comments on this post, but take a look at them if you like , saying that, indeed, they no longer find breasts arousing — get a hard on just from seeing the sight of them. Though they may find them beautiful. Pamela Paul interviewed men on their pornography use and wrote a book about it Pornified. The men often said that when they first saw a topless women they got all aroused.

They needed something more hard-core to get aroused, visually. If a woman gets aroused by breast-feeding, She is more likely to breast feed and nurse her baby. Women — and the goddess — are seen as the creators of life, and celebrated as such: this is a celebration of the ability to have life come from your body and to nourish it. Sometimes I make exceptions if the comment is from a new person. If you would like me to approve comments more rapidly, make them shorter. I remember running into topless women on beaches as a kid, and there was a nude beach right next to my student dorm.

I have seen this argument before; that men from certain European countries supposedly find breasts less arousing, less interesting, or something to that effect. This is not entirely true. Honestly, I think Maverick gets it right. I have also read about other cultures that are supposedly not so interested in breasts, and they tend to vary from breasts bring seen as an important but not shocking sign of feminine fertility, beauty, and attractiveness e.

Despite the cultural differences, the bottom line is still that men in general, everywhere, are remarkably interested in them. This is indeed one major hypothesis for the reason that they are nearly always present in women and girls who have been through puberty. In most other mammals, they are basically absent when there is no milk production chimpanzees, who walk on all four limbs, swell around the genitals instead.

The second best hypothesis is that they serve as a fat storage, but that extra fat could just as easily and more conveniently have been stored around the stomach, as in men. Hi there Trond. You sound a lot like Maverick — who sounded a lot like the guy who wrote in just before him. And you are the first Scandinavian to tell me that he experiences the breast fetish. Why do you care whether it is biological or not? I think one of the most interesting things is how breasts are both idolized and scrutinized. How they are seen as both beautiful and shameful in western culture.

I would argue that it goes back to the point that this post made — breasts are so taboo that they have become highly fetishized and stigmatized. This sends a very confusing message to women and sets an impossibly unattainable standard. Women can hardly even breast-feed in public without someone giving a dirty look and being judgmental.

Breasts are so ridiculously fetishized that when they are performing their biological function and not serving to arouse men, people get offended. I think that these ideas are so embedded into society at this point, that it will be nearly impossible to unlearn. This article enlightens me because for a long time I believed it was a fact that men were hardwired into finding breasts arousing because of breast-feeding as an infant. I suppose I made the connection because of the fact that they are exposed to breast very early on. This article also reveals that the reason why women are also aroused by pictures of nude women is because young girls are exposed to sexualizing women at a very young age and so on as they grow older.

Also can you explain the term biologically visual? Because it seems like there is a misunderstanding here. Okay, I got a whole bunch of comments from you and since they all said the same thing I deleted them. See my comment policy. I have a life and I have things to do other than respond to comments. Again, see my policy on commenters who take an inordinate amount of time. What difference does it make to you whether the breast fetish is biological or a social construction? As to the question you pose here, you misunderstand me. I will simply repeat myself here:.

And men in West Africa find obesity attractive — even though neither anorexia nor obesity are healthy. Charles Darwin, himself, questioned the notion that sexual selection adequately explained human behavior. People are guided by much more than instinctive cues toward reproductive fitness. Men and women, alike, are attracted to people who are smart, charming, emotionally intelligent, fun, warmhearted, high status and who share our interests, he said. So Charles Darwin thinks that physical cues play a role toward choosing a partner but a big role is also being played by the personality of a partner.

In some cultures men prefer women who are obese. That is a visual cue, but it is not grounded in anything evolutionary. In some cultures— Like ours —many women learn the breast fetish. You wrote another superlong comment. If you can be more concise I will respond. You said in one of your comments while replying to someone that you had a few dates in your life. Based on what what you think a social construction is, or what most people think an evolutionary instinct is, I would never get a date. There is a socially constructed ideal, along with plenty of variation in actual experience.

Because not everyone conforms to the social ideal. Our current socially constructed ideal for women comes in two forms 1 skinny with big boobs or 2 big boobs and big butt plus skinny waist, and no cellulite. But they do create certain social patterns with many people in our culture tending to think that the cultural ideal is somehow better. Luckily, cultural ideals do not control us. The good thing about social constructions is that they can change and they do!

Things are very different when it comes to evolutionary instincts. Like appreciating variety as the spice of life. Was it just because? Was there no reason behind it? Think very carefully about this. You are so biased to the ideology about social construction with no strong basis that can prove what you are saying is correct. From an evolutionary standpoint it makes zero sense that any species would choose a less healthy looking partner overweight etc.

You need to think carefully enough to notice that I just gave you evidence that shoots down your argument, before you even made your argument. You said:. But I had just given you examples where the opposite was the case. In some cultures men prefer obesity, like West Africa or plump, like s Europe. Cultures where they prefer larger or smaller breasts. You are the one who is biased, my friend. I give you fact-based information and you respond based on your biases, with no fact-based information at all.

Evolutionary psychology also ignores a ton of evidence — a fact that even Charles Darwin pointed out, once the theory got into lesser minds than his. After reading all your comments I have come to the conclusion that you are saying that men are not biologically visual, meaning that everything we see as attractive is socially constructed. How does that make sense? First, what difference does it make to you whether men are naturally visual versus social construction? Otherwise, while evolutionary biology some valuable points, evolutionary psychology rests on a shakier foundation.

Speaking of contradicting your word , evolutionary psychology has different schools of thought which contradict each other. And one school contradicts itself: Women are monogamous because children need fathers to stick around and provide resources. Evolutionary psychologists are prisoners of their culture. And the theory is inherently conservative, Upholding the status quo of the culture it came out of. Had this school arisen a few hundred years earlier, when women were thought more lustful than men, the theory would look far different.

BUT — as Darwin notes, that only works with the middle-class of the time the theory came out. Among the upper classes men cared more about resources than looks — as any Jane Austen reader knows. And men in West Africa find obesity attractive — even though obesity is unhealthy. Finally, there are plenty of critiques of evolutionary psychology.

You can find some on my blog. First of all, thanks for the quick reply. It is good to see that you are still active on this article. Now, the difference for the natural visualization compared to the social construction is a big one. Yes I also support that view because emotional attraction plays a very important role in selecting a partner too, but does this mean that you agree with the fact that there are physical instinctive cues that make one person choose the other? You see the culture in the fact that In some cultures no men find breasts arousing.

But in a culture like ours, that does, a lot of men will but not all men, because of their experiences or biology. Because if you are saying that in a culture like ours where a lot of men but not all men are aroused by breasts is based on experiences or biology you are saying that in some men the arousal to breasts is hardwired in them. Our sexuality is a mix of culture, social interaction and biology. But no male humans are born with their brain hardwired to find breasts attractive — other than to suck on for nourishment same as girl babies. For babies the breast is about as erotic as mashed peas.

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For grown-up tribal men and women the breast is also about as erotic as mashed peas. Keep in mind that cultural constructions feel biological. Still wondering why you care. Plenty of things can be found attractive without a fetish — most things, in fact. I know many things are attractive, but some things are just more appealing, interesting and attractive than others.

I gave the non sexual context or less sexualized context of the topless parade thingy. And used that as an example which further brought up my mind and further acknowledge something ever more so than I already probalby felt. True, perhaps it might be a lot of bias from a straight male point of view. But I think breasts or many boobs are beautiful and sexy regardless of if they are fetishsized or not. Nipples too. And even for guys who are fit, and pecs or whatever, still working out is needed and not born with that, whereas, women are born with breasts right?

But who knows, maybe they could seem super attractive in some cultures if they put some effort into it. And once being down, weird stuff like that creeps up. But my recognition of my male body and ironically how a pretty women or such body actually can cause it. Well you can blame patriarchy. But also because of women sexual for a very long time our sexual imagery focused on women because it came from a hetero male perspective, and men have more power over things like media, advertising, art and literature. But also because of women sexual repression, which also comes courtesy patriarchy not men, patriarchy.

Sorry for the long post. My thoughts came from a perpspective of that, even though breasts are sexualized because of how they are hidden and flaunted, I mean they are still attractive body parts. I made me think of that, because in the clip the dudes were shirtless too and they were everyday dudes,. But these everyday women, even these regualrd women, their breasts still looked good and were shaped well and shows how women think wrong about their breasts not looking good or shaped bad, etc.

Whereas, women are born with curves and interesting features right? Man nipples are pretty boring, and similar, and hairy ha. So excluding this and that, I feel that even if I grew up in Europe at topless beaches and where it was more normal and less taboo. It sounds funny that I would even observe the women and men, but it just further reminded me how more attractive women are. Seriously the shape and sizes, not to mention nipples, size and variety, just very attractive. Women are insecure of their bodies, but that extra fat that they hate going to their legs and butt and breasts many times is still quite sexually appealing and attractive to men.

But what I was getting at, is that while these were every day women, so were the men. A man has to either be born atheltic or lift weights and to work out pretty hard to develop such muscles. Even with that said, I still think women were made with nice body parts, especially when it comes to the chest area. Straight men like me, seem to get the better deal with seeing and touching a more attractive, interesting chest. Something came to my mind, recently, pardon me, I analyze and introspect things sometimes.

It depends on the context and woman. Well I looked on youtube, and surpisingly there was some clips that were actually uncensored. But able to see the beauty in different women. In the youtube clips there were younger women, some heavier, some maybe 40s ish, black, asian, white, etc. Men were there too and were shirtless or had bikinis or pasty things to show humor and mock the nipple censorship in america. But these women were just everyday women just like the men there.

Sure some pretty or prettier than others, but these weren;t like swim suit models or celebrities or anything like that there. I don;t want this one post to be too long, so gonna break it up and post the rest in the next post. So to be continued….. I understand the context. At least it makes a difference to me. When I was younger I did experience the breast fetish but I rarely do anymore. About the only time I have was when I was in the south of France where they had public beaches. And I think it was the huge breaking of a taboo. Victor Hernandez. Australian Male Nude Photography. Australian Male Photography.

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Romantic Male Nude. This is our fault. We should not project this onto mothers who are doing what is completely natural. Interesting read. I personally think men are naturally turned on by breasts and booty. I think either one, if not both is their fetish. I also think this could be true due to different trends such as twerking booty dance , porn, and other things surfacing social media, television, etc.

Both men and women are drawn into breasts. The rest tend to share the post — and this one has been shared over 19, times. Social constructions often feel natural. With some things you can only tell that they are social constructions by doing cross-cultural research. Thank you for your exhaustive response. Most men are so insecure I think many of them feel that they have no sexual power and women have all of it. She basically says that men are attracted to breasts because. Since this viewpoint still seems to be extant it is not surprising that men get defensive if someone suggests their attraction to breasts is socialised.

Incidentally, as a man I can say it certainly feels completely and utterly hardwired. My body started reacting to the sight of naked breasts before my brain did. You rown attraction to breasts may have been strong but I doubt it was as all powerful and all-encompassing as it was for most men of a similar age.

Some guys think I bring this up to shame them. Which leaves them obsessing over how they look and distracted from sex — which is not so great for men, either. Meanwhile, evolutionary psychology says that the reason why men are visually cued in is so that men can detect the healthiest women. And it seems to be important info for women, given the number of shares this post has received. And the fact that it is pretty much always in my top 10 most viewed posts even after all these years.

Also, social constructions often feel biological. Like this one. Which is why I wrote this in the original post:. Oftentimes, the only way you can tell that something is a social construction is by doing cross-cultural research. And as it turns out, men are actually less judgmental than women — usually.

And whether or not the women give in to the pressure, the couple cannot be happy for long. The book, a billion wicked thoughts has plenty of info on why straight men and gay men are both attracted to the same body parts on their potential mates. They developed a theory called a body map. This is hardware existing in the brain at birth.

Men are naturally that way. Evolutionary psychology — the theory the book uses to explain the Internet data that is analyzed — is contradictory too. Evolutionary psychology has two schools that contradict each other. See this:. With more support and resources, children grew bigger brains and were more likely to survive. If you would like to tell me why you disagree with this post, please read this first and comment over there: The Breast Fetish Is Natural? Here are the ones that come to mind below. Citation, please. At the moment this is conjecture. It could be that the tribal societies who remain uncovered are desexualizing breasts by exposing kids to them from childhood.

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc, a fallacy of causation a correlation. This is completely irrelevant. It means one culture is more knowledgeable than another. These cultures also do other extreme and taboo things with sexual organs. Most men have there penis showing.. Aye, but then your argument will flow to some women becoming aroused from other body parts as well… This is true… But the breast has scientifically been proven to have an abundance of nerve endings to suggest an area of arousal… They are indeed designed to attract the male species.

It is our nature to reproduce and just as a male peacock uses vibrant colors and displays to attract a female so does the breast attract a male… One of many tools a woman can use to pick her perfect mate. The only part that is really itching my mind about this is that it strikes me as possibly being a causal oversimplification.

Social context matters. As an example, I spent a number of years as an EMT. Well, as they say in my field, a naked patient is a happy patient, so in the back of my truck, their clothes get cut off obviously only when the circumstances make it appropriate… I mean, trying to cut the shirt off a conscious patient with an ankle injury would make for a very short career. See what I wrote to the last guy — and what I will probably write you some more guys who wrote in. There is a difference between a fetish and natural attraction. This fetish is a social construction that is not found in every culture.

What a ridiculously one-sided blog. Yes, some human beings are visual just like some human beings — apparently you — are not visual. This is science based, not anecdotal and certainly not dependent on gender. Most likely because historically men have been in charge of images, Whether in art, literature or media. Do Women Objectify Men? Therefore, we are not hard-wired to like fruit. This entire argument fascinates me, not the least because if the thesis of this post is accurate, than I am afflicted and in need of considerable therapeutic intervention. It is a difficult, constant, and I think biologically unnatural, for many—if not all—men to monitor and check our sexual drive, yet it is necessary.

Is it Freudian to believe that the core of most of what we do is determined by the impulse to procreate? An aside: In that regard, maturity was a sweet relief—those years when the male body pretty much operates on the same principle as a compass, albeit driven by a different type of magnetism, but still pointing reliably north, are exhausting.

It is no different with a woman breastfeeding, or, for example, skinny dipping.

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Because it is polite, and expected. Social constructions pretty much always feel biological. I agree. If people went naked or nearly naked, no one would care anymore. We might get cold though…. Since puberty, I found a specific body type of some males to be hugely erotic to me. I definitely find males half-nude, or nude, to be a turn-on. Well, culture and myself, or yourself, are all different things. At least not very much or very often. As a result, magazines of naked men have never sold well among women. But different women have different mixes of the three things I noted above, so you do enjoy images of naked men.

But culturally speaking, images of naked men your experience is less common. Others argue that breasts does effect gynophillic people a lot, and not strangely because it is a sighn of maturity and thus a sign of fertility. But at the same time because of the sexual mystique that they have in the west that heightens it.

Just like a curvy body gets more mystique in cultures were it is shamed to see curves and women dress to avoid showing them. Big but, big hipps, small waist, also shows signs of fertility and low average androgen exposure. All sexual characteristics primary and secondary exist because of primarly sexual selection and to a lesser extent natural selection. And women are sexually attracted to men even though no part of the male body is fetishized. So there is still excitement and mystery around those parts.

We generally see African tribe women having their vagina covered and men have their penises covered. So then the question becomes would it only mean touch or vocal would cause arousal vs visual? Then to take that farther what if we touched each other all the time and talked dirty to each other all the time, then arousal would be very difficult. What I think this all really means is that these things are still biological, but they can be desensitized. I actually believe that sexual attraction is partly visual for both women and men. Everyone has a sexual orientation leaving them attracted to women or men, and the trigger is largely visual.

And yet heterosexual men still want to have sex with women in their communities. It can heighten the sexual experience. None of the things I talk about in these last 2 posts are necessary or healthy. I think you have it backwards. You seem to suggest that sexual attraction originates in culture, which is impossible because culture would not exist without biology coming first. I believe sexual attraction originates in biology, as a motivation for sexual reproduction. But certain cultures have been able to desensitize their people to it. Unfortunately, this requires being exposed to the stimulus constantly, which is not convenient in cold climates where people must wear clothing and cover themselves to keep warm.

I mentioned in the post that in tribal societies men are sexually attracted to women, despite not experiencing a breast fetish. Humans have some biological needs — sex and food for instance. But how those appetites are fashioned varies from culture to culture. In some cultures men have become desensitized — but you have to learn the fetish first in order to later become desensitized.

And those are the cultures that are the oldest. The female breast is not fetishized in tribal cultures, and yet men have still been sexually interested since prehistoric times. Or else none of us would be here. I found this article very interesting as before I read it I thought that the attraction to breast to be biological. I figured the attraction was due to them being female genitals and for biological reasons reproduction men would be attracted to them. I thought maybe it also had to do with them being a source of food for us as we were young, however it has only to do with what your society has deemed a private part.

It makes sense after I read the article, after all breast have nothing to do with the act of making a baby. The only reason I find a breast sexy is because I have been forbidden from seeing them anytime I look at a women. This then goes on to say that thing like hair and even a glimpse of skin can be deemed sexy just by covering it up.

Is it because as a human I want to feel risky or taboo? I wonder if the phycology behind it can be taken further and explain humans thirst for knowledge? Is the reason human know so much about physics explained by this? It is kind of the same thing. We can see physics working by throwing an apple in the air just like we know women have breast because we can see lumps under their shirts. However we want to know more! I dont know maybe it is more about the act of someone exposing themself to you.

Maybe it is because you feel special they decided to show you. It makes the act of exposing yourself something intimate, and can take a great deal of trust. Perhaps it is has another reason all together. Three things create a fetish:. And so breasts are fetishized and genitals are not, even though genitals are more directly sexual than breasts are.

I think people are mistaking culture with habits here. In some tribal cultures, such as the Zulu, women were traditionally topless, but the breasts were still regarded as sexual features. The Zulu practiced the Virgin Reed Dance festival Umhlanga , where virgin females of sexually-developed age dance topless for their chief, originally as a way for the king to choose a wife or wives.

Today, nowadays, it remains as a means of cultural preservation and heritage display—but still with this cultural duality. Similarly, blossomed females of fertility age in Papua New Guinea were topless, but often decorated their breasts in an inviting, accentuated nature, and traditionally were a very sexual people even controversially, to the point where even young children openly mimicked sexual intercourse, much to social approval, before the days of Christian missionaries. The Aztec, Polynesians, the ancient Greeks, and ancient Egyptians all saw such duality between social acclimation of open breasts and high sexual regard towards the female breasts.

Anyways, people here are also disregarding the bigger picture: For MOST of human culture across most of history, the female human breasts were recognized as sexual features. Call it an evolutionary feature. Basically, human female breasts are proportionally larger than they need to be to serve the purpose of breastfeeding similar to how the human male penis is proportionally much larger. That is, a natural objectification. A natural form of sexual objectification without social connotations or cultural regard in itself.

Not that women are exclusive to such natural objectification, or men are helpless to such objectifying, but part of being a woman is to be naturally accentuated by nature for men to notice. Just as we have people who are sexually-capable but prefer asexuality, or how we socially confine ourselves to marriage, even though most other primates are polygamous creatures. Though, most human cultures dwelt somewhere in between. There is no evidence that the men you describe are aroused by seeing breasts. Do you really think that men who are constantly surrounded by topless women have a hard on all day long?

And I have had conversations with men from Europe those European cultures in which toplessness is more common , And some European men have written on my blog there are a lot of comments on this post, but take a look at them if you like , saying that, indeed, they no longer find breasts arousing — get a hard on just from seeing the sight of them. Though they may find them beautiful. Pamela Paul interviewed men on their pornography use and wrote a book about it Pornified. The men often said that when they first saw a topless women they got all aroused. They needed something more hard-core to get aroused, visually.

If a woman gets aroused by breast-feeding, She is more likely to breast feed and nurse her baby. Women — and the goddess — are seen as the creators of life, and celebrated as such: this is a celebration of the ability to have life come from your body and to nourish it. Sometimes I make exceptions if the comment is from a new person. If you would like me to approve comments more rapidly, make them shorter. I remember running into topless women on beaches as a kid, and there was a nude beach right next to my student dorm.

I have seen this argument before; that men from certain European countries supposedly find breasts less arousing, less interesting, or something to that effect. This is not entirely true. Honestly, I think Maverick gets it right. I have also read about other cultures that are supposedly not so interested in breasts, and they tend to vary from breasts bring seen as an important but not shocking sign of feminine fertility, beauty, and attractiveness e. Despite the cultural differences, the bottom line is still that men in general, everywhere, are remarkably interested in them.

This is indeed one major hypothesis for the reason that they are nearly always present in women and girls who have been through puberty. In most other mammals, they are basically absent when there is no milk production chimpanzees, who walk on all four limbs, swell around the genitals instead. The second best hypothesis is that they serve as a fat storage, but that extra fat could just as easily and more conveniently have been stored around the stomach, as in men.

Hi there Trond. You sound a lot like Maverick — who sounded a lot like the guy who wrote in just before him. And you are the first Scandinavian to tell me that he experiences the breast fetish. Why do you care whether it is biological or not? I think one of the most interesting things is how breasts are both idolized and scrutinized.

How they are seen as both beautiful and shameful in western culture. I would argue that it goes back to the point that this post made — breasts are so taboo that they have become highly fetishized and stigmatized. This sends a very confusing message to women and sets an impossibly unattainable standard. Women can hardly even breast-feed in public without someone giving a dirty look and being judgmental. Breasts are so ridiculously fetishized that when they are performing their biological function and not serving to arouse men, people get offended.

I think that these ideas are so embedded into society at this point, that it will be nearly impossible to unlearn. This article enlightens me because for a long time I believed it was a fact that men were hardwired into finding breasts arousing because of breast-feeding as an infant. I suppose I made the connection because of the fact that they are exposed to breast very early on. This article also reveals that the reason why women are also aroused by pictures of nude women is because young girls are exposed to sexualizing women at a very young age and so on as they grow older.

Also can you explain the term biologically visual? Because it seems like there is a misunderstanding here. Okay, I got a whole bunch of comments from you and since they all said the same thing I deleted them. See my comment policy. I have a life and I have things to do other than respond to comments. Again, see my policy on commenters who take an inordinate amount of time. What difference does it make to you whether the breast fetish is biological or a social construction?

As to the question you pose here, you misunderstand me. I will simply repeat myself here:. And men in West Africa find obesity attractive — even though neither anorexia nor obesity are healthy. Charles Darwin, himself, questioned the notion that sexual selection adequately explained human behavior.

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People are guided by much more than instinctive cues toward reproductive fitness. Men and women, alike, are attracted to people who are smart, charming, emotionally intelligent, fun, warmhearted, high status and who share our interests, he said. So Charles Darwin thinks that physical cues play a role toward choosing a partner but a big role is also being played by the personality of a partner. In some cultures men prefer women who are obese. That is a visual cue, but it is not grounded in anything evolutionary. In some cultures— Like ours —many women learn the breast fetish.

You wrote another superlong comment. If you can be more concise I will respond. You said in one of your comments while replying to someone that you had a few dates in your life. Based on what what you think a social construction is, or what most people think an evolutionary instinct is, I would never get a date. There is a socially constructed ideal, along with plenty of variation in actual experience. Because not everyone conforms to the social ideal. Our current socially constructed ideal for women comes in two forms 1 skinny with big boobs or 2 big boobs and big butt plus skinny waist, and no cellulite.

But they do create certain social patterns with many people in our culture tending to think that the cultural ideal is somehow better. Luckily, cultural ideals do not control us. The good thing about social constructions is that they can change and they do!


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Things are very different when it comes to evolutionary instincts. Like appreciating variety as the spice of life. Was it just because? Was there no reason behind it? Think very carefully about this. You are so biased to the ideology about social construction with no strong basis that can prove what you are saying is correct. From an evolutionary standpoint it makes zero sense that any species would choose a less healthy looking partner overweight etc.

You need to think carefully enough to notice that I just gave you evidence that shoots down your argument, before you even made your argument. You said:. But I had just given you examples where the opposite was the case. In some cultures men prefer obesity, like West Africa or plump, like s Europe.

Cultures where they prefer larger or smaller breasts. You are the one who is biased, my friend. I give you fact-based information and you respond based on your biases, with no fact-based information at all. Evolutionary psychology also ignores a ton of evidence — a fact that even Charles Darwin pointed out, once the theory got into lesser minds than his. After reading all your comments I have come to the conclusion that you are saying that men are not biologically visual, meaning that everything we see as attractive is socially constructed. How does that make sense? First, what difference does it make to you whether men are naturally visual versus social construction?

Otherwise, while evolutionary biology some valuable points, evolutionary psychology rests on a shakier foundation. Speaking of contradicting your word , evolutionary psychology has different schools of thought which contradict each other. And one school contradicts itself: Women are monogamous because children need fathers to stick around and provide resources. Evolutionary psychologists are prisoners of their culture. And the theory is inherently conservative, Upholding the status quo of the culture it came out of.

Had this school arisen a few hundred years earlier, when women were thought more lustful than men, the theory would look far different. BUT — as Darwin notes, that only works with the middle-class of the time the theory came out. Among the upper classes men cared more about resources than looks — as any Jane Austen reader knows. And men in West Africa find obesity attractive — even though obesity is unhealthy. Finally, there are plenty of critiques of evolutionary psychology. You can find some on my blog. First of all, thanks for the quick reply.

It is good to see that you are still active on this article. Now, the difference for the natural visualization compared to the social construction is a big one. Yes I also support that view because emotional attraction plays a very important role in selecting a partner too, but does this mean that you agree with the fact that there are physical instinctive cues that make one person choose the other? You see the culture in the fact that In some cultures no men find breasts arousing.

But in a culture like ours, that does, a lot of men will but not all men, because of their experiences or biology. Because if you are saying that in a culture like ours where a lot of men but not all men are aroused by breasts is based on experiences or biology you are saying that in some men the arousal to breasts is hardwired in them. Our sexuality is a mix of culture, social interaction and biology. But no male humans are born with their brain hardwired to find breasts attractive — other than to suck on for nourishment same as girl babies.

For babies the breast is about as erotic as mashed peas. For grown-up tribal men and women the breast is also about as erotic as mashed peas. Keep in mind that cultural constructions feel biological. Still wondering why you care. Plenty of things can be found attractive without a fetish — most things, in fact. I know many things are attractive, but some things are just more appealing, interesting and attractive than others.

I gave the non sexual context or less sexualized context of the topless parade thingy. And used that as an example which further brought up my mind and further acknowledge something ever more so than I already probalby felt. True, perhaps it might be a lot of bias from a straight male point of view. But I think breasts or many boobs are beautiful and sexy regardless of if they are fetishsized or not. Nipples too. And even for guys who are fit, and pecs or whatever, still working out is needed and not born with that, whereas, women are born with breasts right?

But who knows, maybe they could seem super attractive in some cultures if they put some effort into it. And once being down, weird stuff like that creeps up. But my recognition of my male body and ironically how a pretty women or such body actually can cause it. Well you can blame patriarchy. But also because of women sexual for a very long time our sexual imagery focused on women because it came from a hetero male perspective, and men have more power over things like media, advertising, art and literature. But also because of women sexual repression, which also comes courtesy patriarchy not men, patriarchy.

Sorry for the long post. My thoughts came from a perpspective of that, even though breasts are sexualized because of how they are hidden and flaunted, I mean they are still attractive body parts. I made me think of that, because in the clip the dudes were shirtless too and they were everyday dudes,. But these everyday women, even these regualrd women, their breasts still looked good and were shaped well and shows how women think wrong about their breasts not looking good or shaped bad, etc. Whereas, women are born with curves and interesting features right? Man nipples are pretty boring, and similar, and hairy ha.

So excluding this and that, I feel that even if I grew up in Europe at topless beaches and where it was more normal and less taboo. It sounds funny that I would even observe the women and men, but it just further reminded me how more attractive women are. Seriously the shape and sizes, not to mention nipples, size and variety, just very attractive. Women are insecure of their bodies, but that extra fat that they hate going to their legs and butt and breasts many times is still quite sexually appealing and attractive to men.

But what I was getting at, is that while these were every day women, so were the men. A man has to either be born atheltic or lift weights and to work out pretty hard to develop such muscles. Even with that said, I still think women were made with nice body parts, especially when it comes to the chest area. Straight men like me, seem to get the better deal with seeing and touching a more attractive, interesting chest.

Something came to my mind, recently, pardon me, I analyze and introspect things sometimes. It depends on the context and woman. Well I looked on youtube, and surpisingly there was some clips that were actually uncensored. But able to see the beauty in different women. In the youtube clips there were younger women, some heavier, some maybe 40s ish, black, asian, white, etc. Men were there too and were shirtless or had bikinis or pasty things to show humor and mock the nipple censorship in america.

But these women were just everyday women just like the men there. Sure some pretty or prettier than others, but these weren;t like swim suit models or celebrities or anything like that there. I don;t want this one post to be too long, so gonna break it up and post the rest in the next post. So to be continued….. I understand the context. At least it makes a difference to me. When I was younger I did experience the breast fetish but I rarely do anymore.

About the only time I have was when I was in the south of France where they had public beaches. And I think it was the huge breaking of a taboo. Women are walking around half naked in public! Which can make it really difficult for women to enjoy sex. Which helps to explain the high rate of sexual dysfunction among women. Women wear such form fitting clothes and tight clothes that, men can have an idea as far as the body so if he likes you and dates you and in a relationship with you even before having sex.

So women stress about being attractive enough for their man, yet they ignore the fact of him wanting to see her naked? Is that not proof that not only is she attractive but definitely more than attractive enough to him.


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  7. Women need to stop competing with other women. The women are not only aribrushed, but they are models and just a rare specimen as far as looks and body. What doee it mean if you have a body and look like a supermodel, but dumb as rocks? I guess both women and men make comparisons that are ridiculous. And yet it seems to be commonplace. I agree with the subject. The more one hides something, the more people want to uncover it. In case of Women, objectification comes into picture, which also arouses men.

    Way too many perverts in our so called First World countries, and really, women should stop putting up with it. The media has a lot to do with how heterosexual young males are turning out, filled with objectfying and degrading images of women. The only real solution to the problem is for women and gay men to become the majority in control of all media outlets, catering more to the interests of their own groups instead of defaulting to the heterosexual male. So sick and tired of this crappy patriarchal world. And straight women are attracted to men, even though many straight women experience the breast fetish.

    There is no part of the male body that a woman looks at and gets aroused over Or very few women do despite what porn portrays. With women who are actresses, after all. But culture has effects on what we think is attractive. In some cultures men think obesity is attractive — not in ours. In some cultures men think skinny is attractive. Or skinny with big boobs is attractive. Or a pear shape is attractive. In some cultures ankles are considered somewhat arousing. Or hair is considered arousing. Those are cultural constructions.

    Another point you overlooked in your comment. In our culture blonde hair is considered especially attractive. And if you are looking for a sign of health, what is healthy depends on where you live. If you Live around the equator, then dark coloring is most healthy. And blond hair is rarely found on anyone, naturally, after puberty. The attraction to blonde is a cultural construction.

    But overall a womans appearance stimulates a mans brain which enables him to have a quick glance. No matter how much a man denies it he does it. It can be equivalent to when you touch something and it stimulates the senses on your fingertips or when you kiss someone and it can send shivers down your spine. Generally speaking of attraction Remember a man and womans brain is wired differently, our responses will not be similar.

    And why did you delete my previous comment? I deleted your previous comment because it was repetitive and somewhat rude. See my comments policy. As I said, our sexuality is a mix of culture, social interaction, and biology. Like some guys are asexual and that has to do with either biology or experience.

    And then some guys get more aroused by breasts and others get more aroused by butts. How you get on with a person can take it to another level I do not overlook that factor. Humans are hardwired to be sexual and attracted to the opposite sex. Our bodies produces these urges. You look like you have a good body yourself.